#git 2.55.0 from #Debian unstable rebuilds just fine on stable (trixie) without having to backport any build dependency. Hence, if you want to try the new #gitHistory command https://git-scm.com/docs/git-history on stable, you can just `apt source` + `dpkg-buildpackage` and off you go. (You're welcome.)

#Qualcomm Snapdragon X2 erhält #Linux-Unterstützung mit einer frühen Entwicklervorschau. Entwickler können #Debian-Images bei #GitHub erstellen. #Asus plant für das erste Halbjahr 2027 Linux-Notebooks mit Snapdragon X2. Die Fokus liegt aktuell auf Laptop-Unterstützung. https://stadt-bremerhaven.de/qualcomm-snapdragon-x2-linux-unterstuetzung-kommt/

Hallo #linux Experten: Ich möchte von macOS auf Linux #pop!_os umsteigen & benötige Alternativen für Apps die ich beruflich (Musikschule) auf macOS häufig nutze:
Banking: https://moneymoney.app/ (Alternatvie mus SEPA fähig sein, sodass ich Lastschriften anlegen und einziehen kann)

https://de.anytune.us/

https://www.apple.com/de/mac/garageband/

Ich bezahle auch gerne für gute Sofware.
Für Vorschläge die mir den Wechsel ermöglichen bin ich sehr dankbar.
#ubuntu #pop!_os #linux #linuxmint #debian

Last Saturday I presented at #RomHack Camp 2026 my new talk "An introduction to #systemd security sandboxing", with statistics about the (low) adoption of sandboxing features in #Debian packages.
Slides at https://www.linux.it/~md/text/systemd-sandboxing-romhack2026.pdf .

@martin @grubpac

#Debian stable an der Arbeit (Laptop & Servers), Debian oldstable auch an der Arbeit (der ein oder andere Container, der noch nicht upgradet werden konnte), Debian testing zuhause. #Mobian auf dem Smartphone.

Mein Setup in Kurzform. Bei mir laufen mehrere Rechner mit ganz verschiedenen Aufgaben.

Mein Arbeitsrechner ist ein Mini-PC mit CachyOS und GNOME. Der GamerPC läuft mit KDE, der Laptop mit GNOME, alle mit CachyOS.

Auf dem Server läuft Debian, weil es einfach zuverlässig seinen Dienst tut. Und ein Raspberry Pi mit Raspberry Pi OS kümmert sich um die kleinen Aufgaben im Hintergrund.

Jedes System hat seinen eigenen Charakter, und auf jedem lerne ich etwas dazu. Und was läuft bei dir so?

#Linux #CachyOS #Debian #RaspberryPi #neuhier

#Debian mit #KDE als neues #Linux Mal ausprobieren? 🤔

I am a KDE person. I have been for decades. Give me Plasma, Qt and a sensible desktop any day.

But… Synaptic is still magnificent after all these years.

A proper GUI for APT that lets you actually see dependencies, conflicts, versions, proposed changes and the consequences of your choices. Just Debian’s package machinery, exposed in all its glorious complexity.

It resolves dependency conflicts better than many newer tools, and lets you argue with the package universe until you reach an arrangement everyone can live with.

Some software ages. Synaptic simply acquires patina. 🐙💜

#Debian #Linux #Synaptic #KDE #FOSS

🎮️ 💻️ 🐧 Découvrez notre nouvelle gamme d'ordinateurs portables Gaming Linux ! #bazzite #GLFOS #gaming
https://linuxshop.fr/16-ordinateur-portable-gaming-linux

💳️ Paiement en 3, 4 ou 10 fois
🙂 Assistance en ligne offerte pendant 2 ans
📦 Livraison sous 3 à 7 jours ouvrables
🔄 Retour possible sous 14 jours

#Linux #linuxmint #Ubuntu #kubuntu #xubuntu #ZorinOS #debian #fedora #AMD #promo #unitecentrale #ordinateurdebureau

@der_exil_hesse @digitalcourage

Hauptsache, frei und föderiert, statt zentralisiert bei AWS oder Meta 😉

Ich bleibe aber auch bei #Jabber.

Warum?

1. Nutze #XMPP seit ≈ 2014, da gab's sonst fast nur IRC. Ich kann Freunde und Familie nicht dauernd mit was Neuem nerven.

2. Als die-hard #Debian-User vermeide ich externe Pakete. Da gibt's so manch andere nicht. Als #Emacs-User finde ich z.B. #jabberEl ("apt install elpa-jabber") ziemlich #geil.

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From a #Debian update:

apt-listchanges: News
---------------------

rsync (3.5.0+ds1-0+deb13u1) trixie-security; urgency=medium

  In order to fix 33 CVEs, I have decided to bump the package to 3.5.0 rather
  than backporting all patches individually. After analysing the extra changes
  from the bump, not included in the CVE fixes, I have concluded this approach
  carries the lower amount of risk compared to the alternative.

DAAANG, you know you're in #CVE heck when it makes Debian Stable bump a version!!! XD

I just upgraded #Debian, which appears to have broken alt-tabbing to #Firefox (153.4.0esr).

I've #GNOME configured to only alt-tab within the current workspace, but when I alt-tab to Firefox, instead of the last Firefox window on the current workspace that had focus, it now sends me to an apparently random window from any workspace.

As I tend to have dozens of Firefox windows open at once this is sub optimal. Anybody else experienced this or is this something I broke somehow?

IOSTAT & IOTOP

SURVEILLER LES PERFORMANCES D'UN SYSTÈME LINUX & UNIX

Grâce à ces 2 outils, iostat et iotop, il est possible de surveiller les performances d'un système Linux et Unix.

Ils mesurent le temps d'attente du CPU pour effectuer ses tâches de lecture et d'écriture. Il est possible de mesurer la disponibilité de l'hôte de virtualisation sur lequel votre système se trouve.

Tuto disponible sur waxo.fr :
https://www.waxo.fr/linux-unix/iostat-iotop.html

#linux #iotop #iostat #mrtg #gnulinux #debian #unix #waxo

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BTOP en action !

Recherche bénévoles pour #install_party à la MJC Monplaisir (#Lyon) pour donner un coup de main à l'aldil ce samedi 3/10 de 9h à 13h.
Vous pouvez-aider en installant mais aussi en accompagnant les néophytes à prendre en main leur nouveau système. Nous installons principalement des #LinuxMint version #Debian et #Ubuntu si contrainte matérielle ou choix. Autres distrib possible mais se prévoir de la dispo pour accompagner les gens ensuite. Signalez-vous ici ou écrivez-nous à aldil@aldil.org

Anyone got tips on getting [nvi2] to compile under #Debian?

It gives me a bunch of type errors.

nvi2 has some nice features over nvi1, particularly the little vim-style command history pane (press :, then Escape in command mode)

#vi #nvi #nvi2

This year's general resolution on #LLM usage in #Debian concluded with a position very much against my own.

In my own Debian work, at least, I can make my policy against #AISlop clear for anyone who wants to contribute; I'm adding a section to the standard Debian developer documentation 'README.source' in packages I maintain.

https://salsa.debian.org/bignose/pkg-towncrier/-/raw/main/debian/README.source

Hey fedi, I have a very important question:

Is Debian's GitLab instance, Salsa, called so because it has the source (sauce)?

I never thought about that.

#debian #gitlab

Latest #Debian 13 “Trixie”#Linux Kernel #Security Update Patches More Than 1300 CVEs https://9to5linux.com/latest-debian-13-trixie-kernel-security-update-patches-more-than-1300-cves

#OpenSource #infosec

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Debian 13 splash screen

Obscura VPN released Linux applications.

PACKAGES

Debian
Ubuntu (compatible with Pop!_OS and Linux Mint)
Fedora
Fedora Silverblue
RHEL
AlmaLinux
Rocky Linux
Arch Linux

GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE

Obscura is licensed under GPLv3.

Website: https://obscura.com
Mastodon: @obscuravpn

#Obscura #VPN #Privacy #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #FOSS #InfoSec #CyberSecurity #SoftwareLibre #Linux #Debian #Fedora #Arch #FLOSS #Ubuntu #PopOS #LinuxMint #RHEL #AlmaLinux #RockyLinux #ArchLinux #GNU #Mullvad

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Obscura VPN logo.

Roubaix: Installation, conseils, assistance numérique, Le mardi 6 octobre 2026 de 19h00 à 22h30. https://www.agendadulibre.org/events/35912 #roubaix #linux #adieuWindows #debian #mint #clxRoubaixCroix #clx #chtinux #fal #lolote #feteDesPossibles2026

Systemd-Free #Nitrux 7.0 Released with #Linux Kernel 7.2 and #Hyprland 0.55.4 https://9to5linux.com/systemd-free-nitrux-7-0-released-with-linux-kernel-7-2-and-hyprland-0-55-4

@Nitrux_NX #OpenSource #Debian

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A screenshot of Nitrux 7.0 with the default desktop layout.

That moment when the #Debian Stable bumps a package version because there is too much backport work:

"rsync: In order to fix 33 CVEs, I have decided to bump the package to 3.5.0 rather than backporting all patches individually."

#TooManyFixesToBackportExcpetion

Can not remember I have seen this before in Debian. 🤯

I know the-powers-that-be have been pushing away from DNS64 for awhile now, but this change forces the use of CLAT on NAT64 networks. I don't like having my hand forced like this. NetworkManager's BPF CLAT won't hit until the next #Debian release so now I gotta manually start my Jool based CLAT for everything. Also Happy Eyeballs will paper over #IPv6 configuration issues I've been finding and reporting.

Firefox ESR 153 hit #Debian a few weeks earlier than I expected. Make sure to go enable those AI feature blocks, folks! #NoAI

Wir überlegen die PC einiger unserer älteren digitalen Tafeln auf Linux umzustellen.
Hat da jemand aus dem #FediLZ Erfahrung?

Wir überlegen ob wir ein #debian LTS oder ein #Fedora atomic nutzen sollten.
Beim Desktop schwanken wir zwischen GNOME, COSMIC und KDE Plasma

Kombiniert wird das Ganze mit #openboard

Happy 26th birthday, Knoppix! 🐧🎂🎉

Based on @debian, #Knoppix is one of the first #CD and #USB bootable #Linux distros, a historic part of #opensource, and a #community favourite.

Thank you Klaus Knopper and the Knoppix community for your contributions to #FOSS.

#Knoppix #Debian #Sysadmin #LPI #programming #GNULinux #FLOSS

I posted on the forum why I believe that @delta has everything to gain from adopting a strong anti-LLM policy and nearly nothing to lose.

The "pragmatic" approach seems to be strongly anti-AI when you try to be "rationale"

But I realize just now that this could apply to many other projects. I’m looking at you, #debian

https://support.delta.chat/t/any-official-position-on-the-use-of-ai/5039/104?u=ploum

#deltachat

For my fellow debian users, run this quick before upgrading anything:

sudo apt-mark hold rsync

#debian

I really miss running Debian.

#noAI #debian

Hey #selfhosting adjacent people, reminder that with two commands on #Debian you can have a self-hosted #Tor Onion service running:

sudo apt-get install --install-suggests python-txtorcon
twistd web --port "onion:80" --path ~/public_html

The above will make your "~/public_html" (yes that's how old I am) available on a brand-new Onion domain.

More details:

https://txtorcon.readthedocs.io/en/latest/introduction.html#introduction

🔗 Découvrez tous les détails de cette nouvelle version sur notre site :
https://emmabuntus.org/le-28-septembre-2026-emmade6-1-03-une-nouvelle-etape-pour-une-informatique-plus-accessible/
#Emmabuntüs #Linux #LogicielLibre #Réemploi #Accessibilité #OpenSource #Debian

#Debian-Based and systemd-Free #antiX Linux 26.1 Released with Updated Kernels https://9to5linux.com/debian-based-and-systemd-free-antix-linux-26-1-released-with-updated-kernels

#Linux #OpenSource

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A screenshot of antiX Linux 26.1 with the JWM window manager showing the application menu.

From the #Debian stable rsync update notes:
> In order to fix 33 CVEs, I have decided to bump the package to 3.5.0 rather than backporting all patches individually. After analysing the extra changes from the bump, not included in the CVE fixes, I have concluded this approach carries the lower amount of risk compared to the alternative.

This a significant version bump inside a stable release. It sets an interesting precedent.

Wenn ich das eben richtig gesehen habe, dann gab es nun via #debian-security ML ein Linux Kernel Update mit >1300 CVE gelistet?

Wie soll man da denn noch den Ueberblick behalten?!

Whoa!!!

https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2026/msg00441.html

#IT #Security #Linux #Debian

#Debian [DSA 6528-1] linux kernel #security update has fixes to 1313 CVEs.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2026/msg00441.html

@rl_dane It’s a lil #Debian based distro made by @justaguylinux

https://butterbian.org/

Emmabuntüs Debian Edition 6 1.03 Adds New Accessibility Features, #Debian 13.7 Base https://9to5linux.com/emmabuntus-debian-edition-1-03-adds-new-accessibility-features-debian-13-7-base

#OpenSource #Emmabuntus #Linux

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A screenshot of Emmabuntüs Debian Edition 6 1.03 with the Xfce desktop environment.

Noticed something with #Debian today; rsync got a version bump instead of just backported #security patches. I saw this email, so decided to check for updates, and saw this message as part of the apt news message.

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The email: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debian Security Advisory DSA-6527-1 security@debian.org https://www.debian.org/security/ Salvatore Bonaccorso September 28, 2026 https://www.debian.org/security/faq ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Package : rsync CVE ID : CVE-2026-53783 CVE-2026-53784 CVE-2026-53785 CVE-2026-53786 CVE-2026-53788 CVE-2026-53789 CVE-2026-53790 CVE-2026-53791 CVE-2026-53792 CVE-2026-53793 CVE-2026-53794 CVE-2026-53795 CVE-2026-53796 CVE-2026-53797 CVE-2026-53798 CVE-2026-53799 CVE-2026-53800 CVE-2026-53801 CVE-2026-53802 CVE-2026-53803 CVE-2026-70452 CVE-2026-70453 CVE-2026-70454 CVE-2026-70455 CVE-2026-70456 CVE-2026-70457 CVE-2026-70458 CVE-2026-70459 CVE-2026-70460 CVE-2026-70461 CVE-2026-70462 CVE-2026-70463 CVE-2026-70464 Several vulnerabilities were discovered in rsync, a fast, versatile, remote (and local) file-copying tool, which could result in local privilege escalation, bypass of intended access restrictions, information disclosure, denial of service or the execution of arbitrary code. Details can be found at https://download.samba.org/pub/rsync/NEWS#3.5.0 For the stable distribution (trixie), these problems have been fixed in version 3.5.0+ds1-0+deb13u1. We recommend that you upgrade your rsync packages. For the detailed security status of rsync please refer to its security tracker page at: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/rsync Further information about Debian Security Advisories, how to apply these updates to your system and frequently asked questions can be found at: https://www.debian.org/security/ Mailing list: debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org

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The apt news message: apt-listchanges: News --------------------- rsync (3.5.0+ds1-0+deb13u1) trixie-security; urgency=medium In order to fix 33 CVEs, I have decided to bump the package to 3.5.0 rather than backporting all patches individually. After analysing the extra changes from the bump, not included in the CVE fixes, I have concluded this approach carries the lower amount of risk compared to the alternative. This update contains behavior changes, all of which stems from the CVE fixes themselves, not exclusive to the version bump. The ones most likely to break an existing setup are listed here; /usr/share/doc/rsync/NEWS.md.gz has the full list. Operator-supplied paths are no longer followed through untrusted symlinks. The destination directory and the arguments to --backup-dir, --temp-dir, --partial-dir, --link-dest, --compare-dest, --copy-dest, --log-file, --password-file, --files-from, --include-from, --exclude-from, --write-batch, --read-batch and --filter merge files are now resolved one component at a time, following a symlink only when it is owned by root or by the user running rsync; one owned by anyone else is refused with "refusing to follow a symlink owned by an untrusted user". --insecure-links restores the old behaviour, but it is local only and a daemon never honours it. For a single trusted module, set "insecure links = yes" in that module instead. rrsync now refuses --debug on every invocation. When restricted to a subdirectory it additionally denies --copy-unsafe-links, passes the new --confine-root so the server will not resolve a client-named filter merge file outside that directory, and passes --drop-D when receiving, so an upload can no longer create devices or special files there ("skipping non-regular file"). A plain "rsync -a" otherwise still works. --chmod=a+s now sets both the setuid and setgid bits, matching chmod(1); it previously set setuid alone. rsyncd changes that can change who gets in: * "proxy protocol = true" without "proxy protocol hosts" now rejects every connection and warns at startup, instead of trusting a client-supplied PROXY header. * "hosts deny" now fails closed when a configured hostname cannot be resolved (with "forward lookup", the default), so a host previously admitted by an unresolvable deny entry is now blocked. * "auth users" values that start with a comma now split on commas alone, as documented, so a deny or :ro rule naming a group whose name contains a space now takes effect where it was silently ignored. * "hosts allow" / "hosts deny" patterns now fold case inside a [...] bracket expression as well, so a rule such as [A-Z]* matches hosts it used to miss. * A client-requested --compress-threads is capped at 8.

After all, a recent version of Ruff (fast Python linter written in Rust) imported in Debian unstable repository #Debian #Python https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ruff

Is anybody using the VIS editor?

https://sr.ht/~martanne/vis/

I’m really curious about it but I would need some bootstrap tutorial like "VIS for Vim users". I’m still really confused about it.

(yeah, I’m planning to leave Neovim. Will probably ends on Vim-classic once it is packaged in #debian ). Also like #kakoune a lot but Vim-muscle memory is too strong for now.

#vim #vis #neovim

Question for those who went through the process of submitting an open source project package to #debian / #ubuntu How long does the process usually take, and please share any tips you might have. Thanks

@Firefishy upgraded, thanks. It's on #Debian unstable, BTW.

FreeBSD has freebsd-version to tell you which release and exact patchlevel you're running.

Is there a similar command for #Debian that tells you when you last did update & upgrade? #sysadmin

(Edit to add: As I thought, there is no way. Tag your ZFS boot environments with a date and get on with your life.)

Upgraded one of my neglected Docker hosts from Debian 11 to 13. No hiccup at all except manually removing the docker-compose package going from 11 to 12.

I sometimes think I should be using CoreOS for these hosts, but Debian “just works” for me for nearly 3 decades now.
Staying on stable, having auto upgrade on these days and the hosts basically don’t need any handholding for very long times.

Not sure an immutable distro would buy me anything here. #Debian #CoreOS

Tip of ze day Debian :
La Debian Testing installée de base activait au démarrage le Bluetooth de mon laptop... mais ça ne me plaisait pas.
J'ai désactivé le BT en utilisant ce paramètre dans le fichier /etc/bluetooth/main.conf :
AutoEnable=false

Je constate que l'activation/désactivation du BT (via Gnome) est instantanée alors que ça prenait 2-3 sec sous le réglage par défaut... super étrange non ?

#Debian #Linux il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher !

@princesse pourquoi quitter #debian ?

Qualcomm kündigt Linux-Support für Snapdragon X2 an

Künftig sollen die Qualcomm-Prozessoren auch Linux-Betriebssysteme unterstützen, zunächst Debian, kurz danach auch Ubuntu.

https://www.heise.de/news/Qualcomm-kuendigt-Linux-Support-fuer-Snapdragon-X2-an-11463854.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&utm_source=mastodon

#Debian #Hardware #IT #Linux #Notebooks #Qualcomm #Ubuntu #news

#Linux support is coming to #Snapdragon X2 Series

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2026/09/snapdragon-summit-agentic-ai-pcs-linux

""We're upstreaming core drivers for Snapdragon X2 Series — including the Hexagon NPU and Adreno GPU — to open the door to developers and partners.

"We are starting with support for two operating systems based on Linux, also known as “distros”: #Debian […] #Ubuntu […]""

See also: Announcing Linux on Snapdragon X2 Series Early Developer Preview

https://www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2026/09/announcing-linux-on-snapdragon-x2-series-early-developer-preview

""This Early Developer Preview for Linux on Snapdragon X2 Series is a significant step forward in our commitment to the open-source community and a developer-first approach. […]

This article will give you two things: a snapshot of where upstream Linux stands today, and a practical starting point for trying it yourself. […]""

#qualcomm

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Screenshot of the "Linux support is coming to Snapdragon X2 Series" from the linked page

Debian Copilot https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2026/09/msg00001.html https://inference.debian.net #debian #llm

“Mais #Debian, c’est stable !”, qu’on dit… 🙄

Alors, moi, quand on parle de stabilité, c’est pour dire que ça va pas te claquer à la figure pour un rien, comme à la triste époque des Windows 9x/ME. Pas pour dire que ça ne contient que des versions antiques de logiciels… Et là, ben, comment dire… ?
https://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OSAlternatifs/Installation/integristes-barbus-femmes-sujet_12264_780.htm#t1515722

On dit qu’ #ArchLinux est instable ? J’ai des installations dont la plus ancienne a maintenant plus de 10 ans. Mises à jour quotidiennement, JAMAIS elles ne m’ont fait un coup similaire. Et jamais j’ai eu à les réinstaller.

#Linux #Debian #FOSS #ScientificResearch

@rl_dane Fair enough. I used to run it exclusively but it's mostly #FreeBSD and #Ubuntu on the #ThinkPad.

When the next #Debian Stable lands I think I will move to that. The CPU is just too new.

@rl_dane Will you stop using #Debian because of this?

#Debian is lost.
The #Linux kernel is lost.
#KDE doesn't have to be.

#RESIST.

#NoSlop #Antifascist

La honte intersidérale...

Je poste une demande d'aide sur l'IRC #debian-facile : Gnome Files (Nautilus) freeze de longues secondes quand j'ouvre un répertoire contenant beaucoup d'images.

Un user qui se reconnaîtra me répond :
- Mets à jour, désactive des extensions...
- Mon système est à jour et j'utilise peu d'exten... Ho !

Je désactive la seule extension active pour Nautilus, *** codée par moi même ***, qui affiche dans une colonne les tailles d'images en px ... guess what ? 😜

#dev

Créer facilement des repos deb et rpm avec Repomanager
https://www.linuxdocs.net/guides/repomanager.html
#debian #linux #redhat #autohébergement

Very interesting article #CERN's migration path from #CentOS to #Debian #GNU/#Linux https://lwn.net/Articles/1092512/

Debian Code Search (DCS): a search engine for source code — it searches all the open source projects which are included in the Debian archive. Currently, that includes about 18000 packages with 140 GiB of source code. #Debian https://codesearch.debian.net/

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Logo and banner for Debian Linux distribution

#TIL

* `aptitude` (not `apt`) "now"[1] inhibits suspends
* `systemctl suspend -i|--check-inhibitors=no` FTW

#debian

[1] not sure since when.

Hop ! Me voici sur un nouvel ordi (de récup).

Après tant d'années derrière un écran, je n'avais encore jamais installé #Debian. Voilà qui est fait, on va voir si j'y reste (je voulais m'éloigner d'Ubuntu). Avec #Xfce que j'aime depuis longtemps.

J'ai voulu chiffrer le disque. Et paf, 2 mots de passe à saisir avant de pouvoir utiliser la machine. Ça freine mais au moins je n'aurai pas de crainte en cas de vol.

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Première petite contrariété : mon jeune veut que j'installe #Frogatto, mais il n'est pas dans les dépôts.

Mis à part le compiler ou installer seulement le *.deb, savez-vous si on peut pointer un dépôt de ce jeu dans Synaptic ? Je n'en trouve pas en tout cas.

#Debian

Haack's Networking

✍️ We would like to introduce everyone to our latest addition to the #pubglug PubGLUG community offerings. Ente #E2EE encrypted photos, files, and secrets is now live for testing. All users get 10GB upon sign up, but/and more is available upon request (DMs). The technical setup notes are here:

🔗 https://tech.haacksnetworking.org/2026/09/21/ente/

💡 The instance link is here:

🔗 https://gnulinux.pics

📜 We are in testing right now and there will definitely be bugs and/or other issues that need addressing. Please let us know in replies, DMs, and/or hit us on Matrix or DC. For now, registration is open - if it proves to be a problem we will close it. Until then, happy hacking!

#ente #sysadmin #selfhosted #caddy #debian #freesoftware #floss #opensource

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ente icon, e2ee app for files, photos, and 2fa secrets

MX Linux 25.3 “Infinity” Is Out Now with #Linux Kernel 7.2, Based on #Debian 13.7 "Trixie" https://9to5linux.com/mx-linux-25-3-infinity-is-out-with-linux-kernel-7-2-based-on-debian-13-7

@MX_Linux #OpenSource

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A screenshot of MX Linux 25.3 with the Xfce desktop environment showing the MX Welcome app.

Quatre nouveaux « exploits » permettant de passer en root avec un compte local sont sortis pour le noyau Linux. Cela concerne toutes les versions de Debian encore supportées. En attendant de redémarrer sur des noyaux corrigés, nous avons déployé une mitigation visant à empêcher le chargement de plusieurs modules : ah6, xfrm_user, pppoe, sctp, sctp_diag et tun (quand c'est possible).
Plus d'informations sur https://heyitsas.im/posts/lpe-quartet/
#DirtyAH6 #TUNderflow #PPPoEject #DiagSpill #security #linux #debian

🔧 Mise à jour de la page wiki "Scripts d'auto-update LXC/VM sous Proxmox" !

Au programme : notifications Gotify désormais optionnelles (toggle simple), heartbeat même sans mise à jour, et quelques fiabilisations sous le capot. 🐧

👉 https://wiki.blablalinux.be/fr/script-update-lxc-vm-proxmox

#Proxmox #Debian #Homelab #OpenSource

Haack's Networking

🔗 https://content.haacksnetworking.org/w/ddXeefRJ8rw9zeUZRiiRg3

💡 Tonight's agenda is to relax, organize notes, organize projects, if time permits I need to make a metasploit image for a student. I also need to see if a primary backup script is failing and doubling the loop OR not. Other miscellaneous stuff as it comes up or as I catch it in the week's notes.

✅️ Good vibes and good times. Come on by and join the Haacknet ... let's have some fun.

🎶 Music as always, doing a re-listen to Michael Jackson's Dangerous album - one of the most monumental late career releases. Coming out in a time where marketing ruled over authenticity, this album cemented his greatness with hit after hit and rich sleeper songs permeating the album.

#debian #sysadmin #selfhosted on #peertube #linuxstreaming #livestream #metasploit #music #freesoftware

Haack's Networking

🔗 https://content.haacksnetworking.org/w/ddXeefRJ8rw9zeUZRiiRg3

💡 Tonight's agenda is to relax, organize notes, organize projects, if time permits I need to make a metasploit image for a student. I also need to see if a primary backup script is failing and doubling the loop OR not. Other miscellaneous stuff as it comes up or as I catch it in the week's notes.

✅️ Good vibes and good times. Come on by and join the Haacknet ... let's have some fun.

🎶 Music as always, doing a re-listen to Michael Jackson's Dangerous album - one of the most monumental late career releases. Coming out in a time where marketing ruled over authenticity, this album cemented his greatness with hit after hit and rich sleeper songs permeating the album.

#debian #sysadmin #selfhosted on #peertube #linuxstreaming #livestream #metasploit #music #freesoftware

@cregox @postmarketOS @WeAreFairphone @Purism @PINE64 @volla @keepandroidopen

I use the #Librem5 as my daily phone since 2022-05-01.

I never wanted to be indirectly dependent on Google by using a "freed" #Android release.

The Librem 5 runs #PureOS, a #Debian based #Linux distribution.

https://janvlug.org/blog/one-week-librem-5-field-trial-day-1/

I’m on the fence about whether today’s tech bitching thread qualifies for #TechIsShitDispatch, since it’s entirely about open-source software and I’m not sure it’s entirely fair to lump in #FOSS software with all tech being shit. Having said that, part of this relates to a significant usability bug in #Debian which has been broken for at least seven months with no sign of a fix in sight, so I think that’s fair game.
1/11

Aix-en-Provence: Samedi Libre, Le samedi 19 septembre 2026 de 13h30 à 17h00. https://www.agendadulibre.org/events/36289 #aixEnProvence #logicielLibre #cultureLibre #telephoneLibre #gnuLinux #debian #ubuntu #eOs #axul #adieuWindows #semaineDuLibre

Entrei para a Legião Debian!
Chromebook parceiro de guerra desde 2020 comigo ❤️.
Aff, como o Google complica a instalação de outro SO neste hardware 😩. Não consegui o Arch, fui para o Mint e não gostei e ficava travando. Xubuntu 26.04 travou na instalação, versão mínima 24.04 também 👎🏾. Debian foi tranquilo.
O XFCE era mais bonito na minha memória de Ubuntu Studio haha, não teve como, troquei pelo Gnome que também gosto e cá estamos, espero que por mais 6 anos juntos!
#Linux #debian 🖥️❤️!

Latest #RaspberryPi OS Release Brings Dock Support, New Screenshot Tool, and More https://9to5linux.com/latest-raspberry-pi-os-release-brings-dock-support-and-new-screenshot-tool

#Linux #OpenSource #Debian

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A screenshot of Raspberry Pi OS showing the PCManFM file manager and the Terminal app with an output of the fastfetch command.

So more than half of people who voted on my poll last week don't have optical drives on their everyday rig. I mean, reasonable since it's 2026.

Now, since the LG TV news broke out, that got me thinking while eating frozen spaghetti & watching the Gamers Nexus vid

How many VGA monitors do you actively use on your main everyday rig ?

I have 2 that I use on this archlinux rig. I'm not gonna count the 1 for my proxmox rig since I don't interact with it everyday and I only turn on the monitor when I solve a problem on it

#electronics #mastodon #askfedi #askfediverse #archlinux #linux #debian #proxmox #selfhosted #display #vga #hdmi #dvi #LG

What is #debvm?

The purpose of this tool is creating and running #simple #virtual #machines based on #Debian releases. A typical application is testing. Consequently, this has been designed to work without root privileges[^1]. Rather than do thing itself, it builds primarily on #mmdebstrap and #qemu.

salsa.debian.org/helmutg/debvm… [/url]

#Linux Weekly Roundup for September 13th, 2026: #Ubuntu 24.04.5 LTS, #NVIDIA 615, #KDE Plasma 6.7.5, #Debian 13.7, #COSMIC 1.8, #GIMP 3.2.6, #Calamares 3.4.3, KDE Frameworks 6.30, MocaccinoOS 26.09, KDE Plasma 6.8 beta, Agama 24, KaOS Linux 2026.09, #DietPi 10.7, #Shotwell 0.33, Shelly 3.1.4, OpenSSL 4.1, KDE Gear 26.08.1, new #LinuxMint apps, and more https://9to5linux.com/9to5linux-weekly-roundup-september-13th-2026

#FOSS #OpenSource #GNU

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9to5Linux Weekly Roundup - September 13th, 2026

After 3 retries because I haven't plugged the power cable to the SSD, then I hit enter instead of space to disable the desktop environment, I have finally installed Debian 13 on the new server in my homelab.

#homelab #selfhosting #debian

Debian13.7 »Trixie« freigegeben
https://linuxnews.de/debian13-7-trixie-freigegeben/ #debian #linux #linuxnews

#DietPi 10.7 Is Out with Support for Containers with Network and ARMv8 VMs https://9to5linux.com/dietpi-10-7-adds-support-for-containers-with-network-and-armv8-vms

#Linux #OpenSource #Debian

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#Debian 13.7 “Trixie” Released with 106 Bug Fixes and 107 Security Updates https://9to5linux.com/debian-13-7-trixie-released-with-106-bug-fixes-and-107-security-updates

#Linux #OpenSource

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Haack's Networking

🔗 https://content.haacksnetworking.org/w/ddXeefRJ8rw9zeUZRiiRg3

✍️ We are live now folks! Tonight, just chilling and trying to spread positive vibes while researching:

1️⃣ post quantum encryption
2️⃣ kex, mtu, and ssh issues with tunnels
3️⃣ chatmail and pgp, legacy email, DC

🎶 As always, should have some music going as well. Come on by and spam me in chat!

#deltachat #pgp #sysadmin #selfhosted #stream #linuxstreaming #debian #kex #mtu #ssh #chatmail #dovecot #postfix

@nothing @yuki2501

I miss OS/2.

My first #Windows was #Win7 because I needed it for a required college course.

When I got my first PC, it was a Zenith running their version of #DOS.

I got a new computer and upgraded to #DRDOS (from #DigitalResearch) and #DesqView, which gave me #multitasking. I ran a #FidoNet #BBS for a few years.

When I got #internet, it was 128k #ISDN because I headed up support for the dialup #ISP I co-owned with a couple other guys. And I shut down the BBS. Somewhere in there, I'd upgraded to OS/2.

And, when #IBM gave up, I put #Debian on my desktop because we used it on the #servers at work.

When #DSL and #cable lured our 24/7 business customers away, we couldn't pivot to consumer internet before we had to close up.

So, I went to school for my associate's degree. And needed to take a #database course, which required #MSAccess, and so my PC was dual boot.

Until #Win10 was forced on me, and I removed the infestation.

I was getting tired of being a proactive #admin, and a friend suggested #LinuxMint.

That's my personal box now, and my school box has #Win11, but it's not actually my box — it belongs to the state.

I've downgraded my living room desktop from #Debian backports kernel 7.1 back to 6.12. I had noticed with recent updates that sometimes heavy filesystem activity would cause all activity on the system to sort of freeze. Transferring a file to or from my external hard drive would make just reading and listing directory contents on the drive extremely slow, and sometimes when working on multiple operations at once, seemingly unrelated applications would hang for several seconds.

#Linux

Si vous êtes client d’@evolix, vous ne contribuez pas (financièrement ou autre) à une distribution qui considère la sécurité comme un futur point d’attention, ni qui finance une vision du monde raciste et xénophobe.
Non, vous participez indirectement à #debian et #openbsd qui sont des projets empreints de securité, ouverture, inclusion et universalité.
La technologie est politique. C’est un fait qu’il faut accepter et utiliser pour défendre ses valeurs.

@rl_dane

I do not use it in shell script, and the lack of it in the #Debian Almquist Shells obviously inhibits its spread on several operating systems; but in compiled languages rather than interpreted ones: yes, people use it all of the time. And our compilers nowadays nag us when we don't put in the [[clang:yes, I bloody know it's falling through]]; markers in our code.

The Bournist shell syntax pretty obviously has its roots in trying to provide something that the C shell had been providing since the late 1970s.

An amusing thing here is that when I was working on that dash patch I accidentally implemented the ;| behaviour by mistake, initially. It's actually simpler to implement. But I was aiming merely to bring Xu's dash to parity with the #NetBSD and #FreeBSD Almquist shells, rather than add a feature that they don't have, so I didn't keep the mistake. (-:

@mirabilos
#Unix #UnixShells #AlmquistShell

Here's a great example of what Debian's GR outcome has ushered in:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2026/08/msg00526.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2026/08/msg00528.html
https://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2026/08/msg00529.html

For the people who voted pro-slop, what's the copyright situation going to be here? Whose code is going to be regurgitated by this thing? How was it licensed originally?

#debian #slop

Hey #debian how do you manage your #emacs lisp packages?

I'd like to use newer lsp-mode (10.0.0+ to get rid of "Unknown request method: workspace/diagnostic/refres" errors).

The elpa-lsp-mode in forky is new enough, but is not backported to trixie (i.e. not in trixie-backports).

Thanks for any hints, blog-posts or pointers :)

@nafmo

Going by the commentary in the code, the #BusyBox Almquist shell forked from the Xu #Debian #AlmquistShell in 2005. It has been significantly refactored. So they were well out of step even by 2017.

I can confirm that BusyBox 1.37.0 sh (just coming up to 2 years old, and only one version behind) does not support ;& .

ksh 93u, from the same year, does.

I didn't think that @mirabilos would have missed, this, and I was right. I ran that same one-liner with mksh on #NetBSD, and "MIRBSD KSH R59 2020/05/16" was quite happy with ;& in a case statement, and duly fell through.

The Watanabe shell version 2.61 supports ;& as well.

So it's only the two Debian Almquist shells and the BusyBox Almquist shell that are failing the ;& test. Everyone else, although I don't have the ability to test the OpenBSD Korn or the Illumos Bourne shells right now, is passing.

@rl_dane
#MirOS #KornShell #UnixShells

#NetBSD #Debian #Linux #noai #antiai #antillm #runbsd #humanintelligence

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Image of sun tzu with quote "He whose repository rejects the machine's illusions, beneath the shield of human craft, shall watch his enemies compile automated ruin willingly."

@rl_dane

The #NetBSD #AlmquistShell has supported ;& for years. I was just reading the CVS changelog to see when it was added to its manual, which was back in 2017.

It definitely works.

The #FreeBSD Almquist Shell has supported ;& for years. I actually have a 2017 version of that.

It definitely works, too.

Neither the Xu Debian Almquist Shell nor the #Debian Debian Almquist Shell (Herbert Xu is maintaining the two in parallel for some reason, and they are different.) support ;& .

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A terminal session in mostly white on black. At the coloured Z shell prompt, uname shows that the system is NetBSD, and the NetBSD Almquist shell and the Debian Almquist shell are run with a small case statement that uses ";&". The NetBSD Almquist shell can be seen working, and the Debian Almquist shell failing.

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A terminal session in mostly white on black. At the coloured Z shell prompt, uname shows that the system is FreeBSD, and the FreeBSD Almquist shell and the Debian Almquist shell are run with a small case statement that uses ";&". The FreeBSD Almquist shell can be seen working, and the Debian Almquist shell failing.

Next step, installing #Linux on systems. Digital sovereignty doesn't stop at the office suite; the operating system is still a dependency underneath. What distributions are primed to be the #foundation once the office suite is sorted? #openSUSE #Fedora #Debian #Ubuntu https://tuta.com/blog/countries-ditching-microsoft-choosing-linux-digital-sovereignty

@joel

It could be worse. They could have a system of naming these things after 30-year-old Disney movie characters. (-:

#Debian #FreeBSD

So, upstream #chromium just switched to a release cycle of every *2 weeks* for a new milestone release. It used to be 1 month.

If you're using chromium in #debian stable/oldstable, don't expect any kind of stability any more.

Haack's Networking

🥚 The newest member of the Public GNU/Linux Users Group has hatched! Everyone, please welcome our Delta Chat chatmail server:

🔗 https://mail.gnulinux.online

✍️ Again, the full list of community servers that Haack's Networking and community volunteers steward can be found here:

🔗 https://haacksnetworking.dev

💡 Need help in open source and floss space? Hit us up on the Matrix! Want a privacy centered and free Masto? We are open for reg! Want to create floss content, swing by our PeerTube ... and there's much more!

#gnulinux #freesoftware #opensource #debian #selfhosted #sysadmin #linux #gnulinux #community

｢ The “responsible use” narrative shifts responsibility from the group to the individual. It’s not unlike the tobacco industry’s strategy—or indeed that of the “AI” industry ｣

http://www.hierkiosk.de/

#debian #AI #opensource

[$] CERN's migration path from CentOS Linux to Debian

The European Laboratory for Particle Physics, usually just called CERN, is not only the birthplace of the World Wide Web, it is home to the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's [...]

https://lwn.net/Articles/1092512/

#LWN #Linux #Debian #RedHat #AlmaLinux #GCC #Python

Haack's Networking

✍️ Hijacking DNS & Stopping DoH

🔗 https://tech.haacksnetworking.org/2026/09/06/hijacking-dns-stopping-doh/

🧻 This tutorial is designed for #openwrt users and #pihole / #unbound users looking for a clean way to protect your LAN's DNS. This tutorial used a dedicated vlan/subnet with 4 Wyze v4 cams but/and can easily be extended to any IoT devices one chooses. There are three types of actions covered in this tutorial:

- Hijacking plain-text udp 53 and udp 853 DNS requests
- Hijacking tcp 853 (DoT) requests
- Dropping DoH requests for specified upstream DNS ips

📜 I hope people find this tutorial helpful. Feedback and comments are welcome. For those seeking assistance and/or if you want to chat about setup or other Linuxy stuffs, feel free to swing by the GNU/Linux Club Matrix over at https://matrix.to/#/#introductions:gnulinux.club

#OpenWrt #PiHole #Unbound #DNS #DoH #DoT #DoQ #Firewall #TrafficRules #PortForward #tcpdump #VLAN #IoT #Privacy #SelfHosted #Homelab #AWSIoT #NetworkSecurity #FOSS #Debian #floss #freesoftware #opensource

Episode 32 of Dark Blue Weekly released, with a new OS category

https://darkblueproject.com/sites/news/dbw-e32.php

#darkblueweekly #darkblueproject #linux #haikuos #porteux #vanillaos #debian #libreoffice #opensource #freesoftware

I'm dismayed that the three systems and communities I love the most, Debian, FreeBSD, and Slackware, are falling into the trap we might call "Uncanny Valley as a Service".

Debian has their pro-slop policy now, and FreeBSD and Slackware both have influential developers who are pro-slop. FreeBSD is shooting for a "balanced" policy - but how do you balance the copyright and license violations, the cognitive harm, and the climate impact against a dubious "convenience?" And I don't expect Slackware will say anything formal.

I'm hoping I can rekindle my fondness for NetBSD, and I've probably got Gentoo in my future for desktops. I know I can live with NetBSD and if I set up a local binary build server I can minimize the energy cost of having to compile everything for Gentoo. (Maybe if I figure out the implications of the USE flags from default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/gnome that'll end up being reasonable. I'm not a G.N.O.M.E. user. See https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_binhost/Available_packages_and_configurations )

#debian #freebsd #slackware #noai

Attention developers of KDE, Gnome, Libreoffice, GIMP, and any and all applications that let you use fonts: We need to talk about font management.

i run Kubuntu and when i am editing a document or an image and need to select a font, i am presented with a single scrolling list of all the fonts installed on the system, which is several hundred and includes fonts not only for every language currently used in the world, it also includes languages such as Linear A, which has not been spoken in more than 3500 years! Now it's great that my system can display all these different things, and it's really useful in a multilingual environment such as the social media services i use, but at the same time when i need to find a font to use for my own languages it becomes and overwhelming task! We need to fix this.

What we need is for font selectors to have a way to filter the fonts displayed to you. Preferably a filter by language, though i can see how that would need a lot of work and cooperation from the font package maintainers since the language isn't really a characteristic stored in a font file as i understand. Being able to filter by other characteristics, such as serif/sans serif would also be useful.

i recognize that this is not a small or easy task, but i think it is one that desperately needs a solution. And no, uninstalling fonts is not a solution since that breaks the display of text in social media by people from other countries. Breaking the ability to communicate across international borders is not the solution to managing the list of available fonts.

i really don't know how to get this message to the right people, so i'm throwing it out into the Fediverse in the hope that someone either knows of a good workaround, or can point me in the direction of who to talk to in order to get the conversation about this issue started among the right people.

#debian #ubuntu #gnu #gimp #linux #kde #gnome #fonts

Demande de reco distribution #linux :
Avec la fin du support de #Debian bullseye, j'envisage de changer pour une distro peut-être plus adaptée à ma tour de 2014 ( xfce qui freeze parfois malgré ses 4go de RAM quand j'ai libre Office et 3 onglets ouverts dans firefox). J'ai vu #AntiX et MX linux qui sont de la même famille et orientés vieilles machines (j'ai surtout besoin de #LibreOffice, #GIMP et navigation web pour préparer mes cours). Qqun•e a des retours d'expérience ou des recos ? Boost ok

#Debian 11 is no longer receiving updates. A handful of packages will be maintained by external third parties, but for all intents and purposes updates for Bullseye are over, so if you have an internet connected machine still running Debian Bullseye, you should be migrating it to 12 (Bookworm) or 13 (Trixie).

Link: https://www.debian.org/News/2026/20260831

#Linux

Question – what OS should I install?

I have a Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 11e with only 2 cores, 4 threads, and 4 GB of RAM. I'm looking for OS recommendations that would be suitable for this machine.

I'm considering Debian, possibly as a command-line installation, to see if I could manage without a GUI. I've also thought about something more exotic like OpenBSD. Regardless, I'd mainly like to use this machine as a portable typewriter. Importantly, I need TTS (text-to-speech) because of my personal accessibility needs—a screen reader is essential.

I enjoy experimenting with distros and learning through hands-on experience.

Any advise and tips are welcome!

#ask_fedi #linux #ThinkPad #Recommendation #MinimalComputing #AskFediverse #LowSpec #Debian #OpenBSD
#BSD #OS #OperatingSystem

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Grml 2026.09 released

https://lwn.net/Articles/1092660/

#LWN #Linux #Debian

#Grml 2026.09 Linux Distro Is Out with #Linux Kernel 7.1, Based on #Debian 14 Forky https://9to5linux.com/grml-2026-09-linux-distro-is-out-with-linux-kernel-7-1-based-on-debian-14-forky

#OpenSource #sysAdmin

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A screenshot of Grml 2026.09 showing the terminal emulator and the Fluxbox menu.

Question: how does NetBSD differ from FreeBSD? Are both forbidding slop code?

I'm thinking of switching from Debian to BSD, but am unsure which one to start doing serious homework on first.

It will need a modern browser like Firefox (or a fork), office suite, GIMP, and VLC. Also need good printer support.

I don't game or have to worry about Nvidia driver issues.

#BSD #NetBSD #FreeBSD #Linux #Debian

The stuck keys issue with #DeskFlow is driving me up a wall. Super fun when you hit the shortcut to open a terminal and get fifty of them instead. XD

That said, I'm so thankful it exists! I'm driving my #NetBSD/X11/ctwm laptop from my #Debian/Wayland/Plasma laptop. That's frickin' MENTAL, yo! :D

Good News! CERN is Migrating Over 2,200 Control Systems to Debian 13

https://itsfoss.com/news/cern-debian-push/

#Debian #FLOSS #CERN

It's a long weekend ... guess I will hack my legacy #emailserver to include stun/turn for #deltachat and when that's done ... time to spin up a separate #chatmail server.

🔗 https://support.delta.chat/t/how-to-provide-custom-turn-server-settings-when-using-a-classic-email-account/5045
🔗 https://github.com/chatmail/core/blob/main/standards.md

#email #sysadmin #debian #linux #freesoftware #floss #selfhosted #selfhostedlife

Le CERN va migrer ses ordinateurs industriels de Red Hat vers #Debian 13 - https://next.ink/brief-article/le-cern-va-migrer-ses-ordinateurs-industriels-vers-debian-13/

> En 2022, après l’annonce – très mal reçue – de Red Hat sur la fin de CentOS au profit de #CentOS Stream, le CERN avait décidé de migrer vers #AlmaLinux, autre distribution compatible Red Hat. Le laboratoire a cependant décidé de se détourner de Red Hat, comme le rapporte Phoronix, qui a assisté à la conférence MiniDebConf, à laquelle participait le #CERN.

#redhat

FYI

The Debian vote on LLM slop AI Code in the project is interesting

The Debian developers have voted on the project's stance regarding content generated by large language models (LLMs). There were eight proposals put forward on the topic of whether to allow LLM-generated content to be included in Debian, ranging from banning all LLM contributions to accepting all AI/LLM contributions. The result of the vote was that option 5 (also called option E) was selected: "Responsible Use of Generative AI", which is summarized as: "Debian neither endorses nor prohibits the use of generative AI tools in the development, maintenance, or documentation of software, packaging, documentation, and other media published within the Debian Project."

Debian Project Leader Lucas Nussbaum expressed regret on the results of the vote, writing: "On a very personal note, I regret that the winning option does not acknowledge all the legitimate concerns around AI: environmental impact, copyright and licensing uncertainty, the health of Free Software communities, and the strain of aggressive scraping on the open web."

At least one developer has left the project in protest following the vote. Antoine Le Gonidec wrote, in part: "I can not support the current decision of Debian about LLM use, and am no longer willing to be seen as a part of Debian under these new rules. Pretending to have a 'neutral stance' when faced with fascism is not neutrality, it's active collaboration.... You can replace me with some agentic AI anyway, so do not even try to pretend you're going to miss me."

Source

https://distrowatch.com/weekly-mobile.php?issue=20260831

#LLM #slop #AI #miscreant #programming #Linux #Debian

Run #NetBSD 🚩

#noai #antiai #nollm #debian

There were ppl interested in #immutable #Debian #OSImages for servers, clients and phones. We have an irc channel /matrix room for that now: https://matrix.to/#/#debian-immutable:matrix.debian.social .

Join us if you're interested in that topic.

Wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/immutable

#minidebconfch

New Game : Rock Paper Scissor Debian NetBSD

Rock beats scissors
Scissors beat paper
Paper beats rock
#NetBSD beats #debian

#runbsd

J'aimais vraiment bien XFCE mais apparemment sur la version que j'ai (Debian Trixie) y'a pas moyen d'accéder à Network Manager ?
Sur une machine où la connexion réseau fait des siennes, c'est vraiment pas pratique...

Et dans les applets à ajouter au tableau de bord, y'a rien qui permette de voir le réseau...

#XFCE #Debian

Faint hope ✊:

The blunt, unsatisfactory decision that has emerged from #Debian is sorta least common denominator that means something to someone but something else to somebody else... Yet maybe an attempt at a statement: "_irresponsible_ or _non-reponsible_ use of #LLM/#GenAi is not acceptable."

So now would be time for #Debian and #FLOSS communities at large to lead the way and determine: what would be "_responsible use of #GenAI_"?

Is the use of LLM/GenAI "responsible" if:
- it boils rivers?
- it belongs to evil US tech overlords?
- its model is proprietary?
- its training dataset is not public? (then can anything even be Free/Libre software?)

@civodul

CERN is dropping #RHELL for #Debian. All 2200+ systems by the end of the year.

The reason being is that the "-march=x86-64-v2" compiler flag default as "forced obsolescence" for old hardware.

It's not without headaches, mostly due to "the lack of standard tooling for automated building and publishing of packages - a lot of gaps in the official tooling. There are also a number of tools not supporting multiple versions of the same packages."

https://www.phoronix.com/news/CERN-Goes-Debian-Leaving-RHEL

#linux

Wie sieht es denn so mit #Debian auf einem #Tablet aus? Hat da jemand gute Erfahrungen?

CERN is moving its industrial computers and embedded systems to Debian 13, with over 2,200 devices targeted by year’s end.
https://linuxiac.com/debian-13-is-taking-over-2200-control-systems-across-cern/

#cern #debian #linux #opensource

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CERN is moving its industrial computers and embedded systems to Debian 13, with over 2,200 devices targeted by year’s end.

Ok, time to branch out in my #HomeServer configuration by switching the media server from #Debian to #NetBSD. (FreeBSD is embracing AI, so bleh.) Looks like the options are #MiniDLNA, which I played with once before, and #Gerbera and #MediaTomb, which I haven't.

Has anyone compared the three, especially on NetBSD, and to you have recommendations? I don't plan to run a desktop environment on the host.

#Debian won’t ban #AI code from its #Linux #distribution. Debian voted to allow developers to use AI #tools in their contributions to the Linux distribution's "development, maintenance and documentation." 
https://www.theverge.com/tech/986789/linux-debian-generative-ai-policy

Haack's Networking

✅️ I am currently in my 20th year in education and over the years I've worked in both secondary and college. I've been a sysadmin longer, having started at the NM Coalition for Literacy in 2000 while finishing college on the "long plan." I pivoted in 2018 back to the private sector and then back again to education in 2022. I've maintained this side company/DBA, Haack's Networking, throughout the entirety and I still have clients to this day that I began with in the early 2000s.

✍️ I've always been struck by the prohibitive cost of software. As a young kid, I remember my father purchased me MetroWorks CodeWarrior for learning C for my LC475 68K mac. I read somewhere in 1992 that I should learn C so that's why I asked for it. Over those next few months, it's hard to explain the frustration I felt at trying to keep the abstractions separated. Open firmware, vs. mac's OS at that time, vs., the IDE and C I was supposed to be learning. It helped at disambiguating abstractions, but was useless at teaching me C. I still suck at C. The package was pretty costly nevertheless.

📻️ While in my early days as a sysadmin, I remember the Adobe suites, Microsoft suites, etc., that we were obligated to keep up to date and purchase for our non-profit. We also had tons of macs, 5 laser printers, early flat panel displays, an early NAS, and a hard firewall (Sonic something). It was not sustainable for this non-profit whatsoever. After the prior Director left - who I still consider a mentor and friend to this day - others took over who made an effort to reduce spending and keep the tech lifts in line with reality. It was slow and painful, but/and I learned that costly is not better.

🔗 Public Services: https://haacksnetworking.dev

💡 It turns out that costly is still not better. In the link above, I share floss-based services I freely host for the community. Registration is open; there are associated and differing TOS/COC. I welcome community members to come by and/or join. We have a nice Matrix community and a small but dedicated Masto #community - Costs should not prohibit end users from using compelling solutions. And, of course, those solutions should also respect user freedom. Consider signing up!

🔗 Donate: https://liberapay.com/oemb1905/

#mastodon #matrix #peertube #castopod #navidrome #jellyfin #pixelfed #gitlab #nextcloud #floss #debian #opensource #linux #selfhosted #smallbusiness #educator #education #freesoftware

The monthly #PureOS development report for July is available:

https://puri.sm/posts/pureos-development-report-july-2026/

It describes forking, carrying on and coming together again of PureOS and #Debian.

The upcoming PureOS release, #Dawn, will be based on Debian #Trixie.

PureOS is the operating system for @purism devices, like the #Librem5 #Linux #phone. It is fine tuned for #Purism hardware.

You can support #MobileLinux by buying Purism devices or optionally paying for a PureOS subscription.

#OpenSource #Librem16 #FOSS

Nous avons quelques dizaines de clés wifi Realtek 8812AU/8821AU
Elles fonctionnent avec la version 7 du noyau Linux mais pas avec la version 6 de #Debian 13
En activant les backports il est possible de récupérer le kernel 7
Dans le cadre de la distribution gratuite d’ordinateurs du Centre des Abeilles de #Quimper nous aimerions les donner avec les ordis
Peut-on rencontrer des problèmes avec les backports sachant que les bénéficiaires de ces ordis sont souvent des néophytes

#ThinkPad #Linux #Debian

"… The tone reads as parting-shot venting more than argument. Lines like "Fuck that, I'm out" and "so do not even try to pretend you're going to miss me" signal this is an emotional exit letter, not a reasoned brief — which is a legitimate thing to write when leaving a volunteer project, but it also means a reader shouldn't expect (and won't find) the argumentative scaffolding that would make the fascism comparison persuasive on its own terms.

Net effect for a neutral reader: the letter communicates genuine, strong distress about AI's role in the project, but the specific word choice is likely to read as rhetorical inflation — the kind that risks being discounted by exactly the audience it might otherwise persuade, and that (per the general pattern with this kind of comparison) tends to draw more attention to the word than to whatever substantive concern about LLMs prompted it."

– from <https://claude.ai/share/37457b87-deba-412d-9e62-3beae2bb33df>.

#Debian #retirement #rhetoric #AI #LLM #LLMs #fascism

Annonce de la fin de vie du suivi à long terme de Debian 11 - https://www.debian.org/News/2026/20260831

> L'équipe du suivi à long terme (#LTS) de #Debian annonce par ce message que la prise en charge de Debian 11 #Bullseye atteint sa fin de vie aujourd'hui le 31 août 2026, cinq ans après sa publication initiale le 14 août 2021.

Debian ne dit pas non à l’IA et divise la communauté - https://next.ink/253766/debian-dit-oui-a-lia-et-divise-la-communaute/

> La communauté Debian devait voter sur la place que les grands modèles de langage (LLM) pouvaient tenir dans le développement de la distribution Linux. Parmi les axes proposés, elle a choisi un quasi-statu quo. La décision divise, ayant notamment provoqué le départ d’au moins un des développeurs.

Va prouver, en 2026, que du code est généré par IA ou pas 🙄

#IA #LLM #debian

To all those outraged that developers of various software, distributions and operating systems don't ban LLM-assisted tools:

LLM-free PRs welcome! Be the change you want to see.

In reality the reason developers _choose_ to accept LLM-tool usage is because the tools are good.

#alpine #debian

What changes to #Debian governance or it's voting process would have changed the outcome of it's recent vote on LLM generated code? IF any? #AntiAI #linux #floss

« Interdire l'IA » : des développeurs de logiciels libres rejettent l’intelligence artificielle - via la revue de presse @aprilorg

https://basta.media/interdire-IA-LLM-des-developpeurs-de-logiciels-libres-rejettent-intelligence-artificielle-Debian

#opensource #llm #genai #aislop #debian

If you use rootless podman on Debian or Ubuntu, the recent update to 6.1.0 might break your services, which seems to be because the default storage configuration at /usr/share/containers/storage.conf explicitly sets runroot and graphroot to /var/lib/containers/storage. Commenting them out and uncommenting rootless_storage_path = "$HOME/.local/share/containers/storage" fixes the immediate problem.
Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/podman/+bug/2165050
#podman #debian #ubuntu

Big corporations always ruin things, because they prioritise making fast money over anything, even if stomping on others, whether people or the environment or you name it.

AI companies shouldn't have scrapped the internet from the beginning. If AI as a technology was monitored to grow ethically, we wouldn't be upset now in the FOSS community.

AI models wouldn't have the immense powers they have now, because they wouldn't have stolen all humanity's work. But we always have slow government and parliaments that will act years after the disaster. Even then, big tech lobbying and corrupt money will shut them or slow them strongly.

If AI models were trained on public domain stuff, consent, and experiments with consenting parties, it would have been ethical, along with democratising and decentralising them from the first place. I worry we're heading to a global dictatorship that's in the hand of not the 'elite' as in numbered groups of people, anymore, but in the hands of three or four individuals controlling everything.

#Linux #debian #AI #decentralisation #democratisation #kernel #linuxkernel #ethics

You are forgetting hobbists, academics and independent developers. 😉

Anyway, no: most of free software projects do not attract any commercial interest, and working on them does not necessarily imply lobbying for your employer.

Debian (or Linux) are too influential to be "left alone".

Also I'm not even arguing about the good faith of such developers: I'm totally sure that none of them betray their values to serve direct corporate orders, their beliefs are simply aligned with those the employer want to spread.

Don't take this as a personal criticism: it's not, really.

You are totally entitled to your opinion, and your valuable work for Debian (both the 1% in your office hours, and the 99% in your free time) weights your vote.

It's totally up to you (and other Debian Developer) to steer the project as you like.

For security reasons, I'd prefer a #Debian that ban #BigTech contributions through #LLM (or not, frankly).

And just like I adopted Debian for ethical and political reasons back in 2000, I will move on to something else for the same kind of reasons.

Debian changed over these 26 years: the focus on freedom and stability is gone.

But I changed too.
I've much less free time I used to have back then and replacing Debian will be painful.

Yet, the sooner the better.

@tiotasram@kolektiva.social @skjeggtroll@mastodon.online @freshstart@hachyderm.io @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

Just removed from my little profile list of "essentials" and from my last workstation.

The act of doing so does not bring me joy.

#Debian #NoAI #slopOS #ArtificialIntelligence #LLMs #AI #OpenSource #FreeSoftware #FLOSS #FOSS

What are the remaining maximally useful #Linux / #Debian alternatives with a strict #noAI policy?

What are the most important selection criteria for you and how do they do against those?

No #LLM #FOSS

Debian autorise officiellement l’IA générative, mais le contributeur reste responsable https://www.it-connect.fr/debian-vote-ia-generative-resolution-generale/ #Logiciel-OS #Debian #Linux #IA

Do you work as a professional developer/sysadmin/devop etc?

Does your employer knows you work on Debian, even if in your out-of-office hours?

If so, if your employer let you work on Debian, it's just because you are aligned with the company interests enough to bring such interests in the context of #Debian.

I don't have numbers either, but my bet (based on what I observed in other projects) is that most independent #Debian Developers were in the #NoAI camp.

Note that the corporate capture of Debian has been ongoing since years (recall #systemd?).

And each of these "divisive" vote makes some independent devs leave, increasing corporate influence.

The outcome is sad, but much expected.

@tiotasram@kolektiva.social @skjeggtroll@mastodon.online @freshstart@hachyderm.io @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

« Bon il est temps de regarder de plus près comment migrer de Debian à FreeBSD »

Cinq minutes plus tard :

#Debian #FreeBSD

my new dream is to create a new linux distribution (debian or Fedora based) and call it "open slop".

and then have some crypto bros fund it.

#linux #noAi #debian #fedora

#debian Choice 5 states "Project members are expected ... to avoid introducing content whose legal status they cannot reasonably justify."

So none of the AI/LLM models created without a known and correctly licensed corpus of materials can be considered clean.

One day there will be effective models trained with suitably-licensed and disclosed data. Until then, all contributions from other models should be rejected outright.

my new dream is to create a new linux distribution (debian or Fedora based) and call it "open slop".

and then have some crypto bros fund it.

#linux #noAi #debian #fedora

And now, about #Debian #DebIAn; where to go ? #Arch I like it; Nixos too but fucking tree. What else with no AI / IA ?

What are you switching to now that #Debian and even #Linux is getting slopified? I'm looking at #NetBSD, but I've got zero experience with #BSD so pls help

How can I best yell at #Debian?

@davidguillot Not really, no. Well, ok, depends on how much would actually end up in the pot. But it would need to be *A* *LOT*. I mean, AI-free #debian means forking the Linux kernel from some time ago, forking a lot of other software from some time ago and then keep on maintaining all this.

If you just mean "drop all AI generated packaging parts", well, that's a bit less work, especially right now, there isn't so much of this there yet, but still, forking it now and keep on maintaining the huge numbers of packages Debian has, is a whole LOAD of work. It is a surprising amount of work to keep a distro running. Guess why even Ubuntu is importing a major amount of its packages from Debian. They add lots of work for whatever they do, and they invest a significant amount of time and money.

@ChampersBE I will clarify.

Yes, I am aware that the #Linux kernel and other distros have been using #AI for some time now and in various capacities.

The backlash #Debian is receiving is because it isn't just another distribution. It's one of the oldest, it has a long standing reputation for rock solid stability, among many other strong selling points.

Given the significant and ethical problems surrounding AI, many feel this is a step backwards for the project.

Frankly, Debian has warts and other cultural problems that I would *much* rather see corrected before any AI use is even remotely considered.

It's worth noting that the "Responsible Use of Generative AI" which #Debian voted to accept was largely generated by an LLM.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2026/07/msg00186.html

Haack's Networking

✉️ Finishing up another email server. Why? Well, as per typical ... large clients who get tons of email can't get Google / MS to perform. What does it fail at?

- Either too aggressive on spam or too weak - no in between
- No IP-level blocks
- No ability to track down how or why a particular sender had difficulties

🩵 It's once again one of those cases where the largest vendors in the world fail, while greybeard solutions prevail. Sorry, not sorry ... it's just how it is. If you want things to work, take control and do it yourself!

🎥 https://content.haacksnetworking.org/w/ddXeefRJ8rw9zeUZRiiRg3

✅️ Feel free to come on by!
#debian #selfhosted #peertube #linux #postfix #dovecot #email #linux #floss #opensource #live #livestream

I'm trying to find a history of the #Debian project leader elections. I can find the list of previous leaders (eg: who won) but I'd like to find a list of all previous candidates. The theory I'm trying to prove is that the most recent election is the only one in which a single person ran for the office.

RE: https://gnulinux.social/@oemb1905/117184655060040759

🔥 Round 2 firing up ...

👀 That reminds me that I still need to implement a "secure" way for clients to change email passwords via Roundcube. For now, this remains internal/managed - which is fine for these use-cases. Credentials are shared via pw managers that haacknet+client share access to.

📜 Alright, only 10:08am at this moment and got four fifths of the work done. But/and, now, I need to get the remaining parts built out:

- Roundcube, including sieve
- Autodiscovery (DNS is cached already)
- PfLogsumm setup/cron
- Virtual aliases and gen. review

😭 After that, success will be had and billing can be done - with proper testing and verification of services first, of course! Another one done, more to learn ... okay, back to user pw mgmt.

🔗 https://content.haacksnetworking.org/w/ddXeefRJ8rw9zeUZRiiRg3

#debian #selfhosted #peertube #linux #postfix #dovecot #email #linux #floss #opensource #live #livestream

Haack’s Networking » 🌐 2026-08-30
@oemb1905@gnulinux.social

Haack's Networking

✉️ Finishing up another email server. Why? Well, as per typical ... large clients who get tons of email can't get Google / MS to perform. What does it fail at?

- Either too aggressive on spam or too weak - no in between
- No IP-level blocks
- No ability to track down how or why a particular sender had difficulties

🩵 It's once again one of those cases where the largest vendors in the world fail, while greybeard solutions prevail. Sorry, not sorry ... it's just how it is. If you want things to work, take control and do it yourself!

🎥 https://content.haacksnetworking.org/w/ddXeefRJ8rw9zeUZRiiRg3

✅️ Feel free to come on by!
#debian #selfhosted #peertube #linux #postfix #dovecot #email #linux #floss #opensource #live #livestream

Sending good vibes to everyone in the Debian community navigating the recent transitions. If you're using this moment to do a little distro-hopping, consider jumping over to the BSD side. NetBSD offers a completely independent codebase built on a classic, predictable philosophy. You might just find your new permanent home! 🚩💻
#NetBSD #Debian #FOSS #noai #TechCommunity #antiai

La take de centriste de la part de la communauté #Debian donc 😩

D'autant plus préjudiciable de ça va ruisseler dans les dérivées.

https://www.debian.org/vote/2026/vote_002.en.html

#Debian was structured as a democracy of developers (maybe technically a platonic aristocracy, but it does not matter here).

Thanks to this, it got trust that turned it into a fundamental building block for #Linux users (most used distro are Debian derivatives).

Unfortunately, such trust also attracted commercial interest.

Now most of Debian Developers (just like most of #Linux kernel's devs) are corporate employees that would not be assigned to Debian development if they would oppose corporare interests.

So ultimately Debian cannot be trusted anymore: the vote on #LLM is just an evidence of this fact.

To people who use it since decades (I started with Potato because of its focus on #freedom), it's a pain.

Right now I'm slowly moving to #NetBSD.

@skjeggtroll@mastodon.online @freshstart@hachyderm.io @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

I think the medium-to-long term good news is that, if vile slop coding is as bad as I think it is, projects like #Debian could reverse their position and remove so called AI 'contributions' from their code base.

Meanwhile, BSDs will probably chug along happily.

Again: the line is drawn, time to choose your side.

The tragedy of #Debian accepting AI 'contributions' is that, most of the time, you are accepting stuff that:

a) is someone else's code, with all the potential legal issues (hence #NetBSD stance on it)

b) is of a very dubious quality, since it went through an AI blender

Just remember: an 'AI' does not exist and has no concept of code, quality and correctness -- I feel like we will soon see the first CVE with a CVSS 9.99 score in AI supplied slop vile coding due to this.

Funnily enough, I was never really into #Debian ... I appreciate the quality of the distro, but... I don't know, too many moving parts, I guess.

I will continue supporting #Slackware I'll look into #Guix and, of course, #OpenBSD and #NetBSD as well as #HardenedBSD .

The line is drawn. It is time to choose your side.

@bazkie

#Debian devs voted to allow responsible use of #AI.

Whatever the heck that means.

I can tell you I am not impressed. It's been my go-to OS since 2006. Every release has been my desktop and lab OS for the past 20 years. It's been the sole distro I have recommended countless times.

While I've been slowly migrating to #FreeBSD over the past year or so (for a variety of reasons), this recent change solidifies my decision to switch.

https://www.fosslinux.com/160593/debian-votes-to-allow-ai-what-the-new-policy-actually-means.htm

Haack's Networking

✉️ Finishing up another email server. Why? Well, as per typical ... large clients who get tons of email can't get Google / MS to perform. What does it fail at?

- Either too aggressive on spam or too weak - no in between
- No IP-level blocks
- No ability to track down how or why a particular sender had difficulties

🩵 It's once again one of those cases where the largest vendors in the world fail, while greybeard solutions prevail. Sorry, not sorry ... it's just how it is. If you want things to work, take control and do it yourself!

🎥 https://content.haacksnetworking.org/w/ddXeefRJ8rw9zeUZRiiRg3

✅️ Feel free to come on by!
#debian #selfhosted #peertube #linux #postfix #dovecot #email #linux #floss #opensource #live #livestream

Debian developer Antoine Le Gonidec just quit the project over its decision not to ban #LLM-assisted code contributions:

Pretending to have a "neutral stance" when faced with fascism is not neutrality, it’s active collaboration.

AI slop is fascism materialized. Stop it whenever you can!

Source: https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2026/08/msg00041.html

#aislop #debian #gnulinux #linux #distribution

Listen, folks…
If you're trying to convince people that there are alternatives to #Debian #Linux that aren't using AI, you're probably not going to get far by suggesting distributions that literally have no installer and expect you to install Linux by hand from an empty drive, or that haven't put out updated images in eight months, or that don't seem to explain anywhere on their website or in their documentation what their commitments are in terms of patching security vulnerabilities.

Quimper: Permanence de Linux Quimper, Le samedi 5 septembre 2026 de 16h00 à 18h00. https://www.agendadulibre.org/events/35942 #quimper #adieuWindows #linux #permanence #logicielsLibres #linuxQuimper #debian #ubuntu #feteDesPossibles2026

1. Debian Developer resigns from the project in response to the recent vote to allow generative AI use within Debian.
2. A member of the debian-devel mailing list sends the message at left in response.
3. I just sent the message at right in response to that.
#Debian #Linux #AI

Alt...

good riddance, antoine the fascist. you love causing damage to the debian project and now you're throwing a temper tantrum like a five-year old child because you can't comprehend the ai evolution. you are nothing more than a deranged person who spits at people's work and expects people to follow their unhinged beliefs, a waste of human space. you are the one who is being fascist here.

Alt...

Either the Debian Community Team officially, on the debian-devel mailing list, states that the message below from David Nickelson violates the Code of Conduct and imposes consequences on him for sending it, or I am resigning as maintainer of apt-listchanges and never again taking on any volunteer role within Debian. My contributions to Debian thus far have been extremely small, and I'm sure they will not be terribly missed. Nevertheless, I will not continue to associate myself with an organization which allows messages like the one below to be sent without repercussions.

Just as copyright violation in #Debian is impossible to perfectly detect, and yet is strictly banned in the project, @MeaningfulBits.

It doesn't matter whether a perfect detection mechanism exists (it doesn't). The point of a ban is to be clear *that* this is the policy, *what* behaviour is banned, and that people know it.

Yes people can attempt to deliberately circumvent it. So we don't want people who deliberately try to evade policy.

@jik

En dehors des considérations environnementales, je suis surpris par la décision des développeurs Debian concernant l'IA. Ces technologies sont nourries sans aucun respect ni aucun moyen de respecter les licences du code qui a servi à leur apprentissage.

Les développeurs Debian ont totalement invisibilisé cet aspect, crachant de fait au visage de toute la communauté du logiciel libre.

#IA #debian #lLogicielLibre

Listen, folks…
If you're trying to convince people that there are alternatives to #Debian #Linux that aren't using AI, you're probably not going to get far by suggesting distributions that literally have no installer and expect you to install Linux by hand from an empty drive, or that haven't put out updated images in eight months, or that don't seem to explain anywhere on their website or in their documentation what their commitments are in terms of patching security vulnerabilities.

Even if you ignore all the very real ethical concerns posed by so-called “AI”, the fact that LLM bots are swarming the digital commons, making their servers buckle under the load, should be reason enough to ban it from all major free software projects.

#Debian #AI

La dernière grosse déception en date c'est Debian. Juste avant c'était Neovim, y a eu Python, y a eu le kernel de Linux, y a eu, y a eu, bref, ça ne s'arrête pas.

Au bout d'un moment, plus personne n'aura accès aux LLM, et on n'en parlera plus. Mais tous ces fascistoïdes seront toujours là. Tous ces tech bros vont pas disparaître avec l'éclatement de la bulle, ils continueront de donner leur avis non-solicité sur tout et rien.

Comment on reconstruit le libre après autant de déception ? J'entends venir la mélodie des "résistants de 45" (comme disait mon arrière grand père) qui commencent déjà à dire "naaaan mais j'ai jamais vraiment défendu l'IA hein !"
On en fait quoi de tous ces hypocrites qui ont retourné leur veste à la première occasion (et tant pis pour les autres) ?

Le """libre""" exige de la confiance.
Je veux faire scission.

#llm #ia #debian #neovim #technofascisme #libre

"… The tone reads as parting-shot venting more than argument. Lines like "Fuck that, I'm out" and "so do not even try to pretend you're going to miss me" signal this is an emotional exit letter, not a reasoned brief — which is a legitimate thing to write when leaving a volunteer project, but it also means a reader shouldn't expect (and won't find) the argumentative scaffolding that would make the fascism comparison persuasive on its own terms.

Net effect for a neutral reader: the letter communicates genuine, strong distress about AI's role in the project, but the specific word choice is likely to read as rhetorical inflation — the kind that risks being discounted by exactly the audience it might otherwise persuade, and that (per the general pattern with this kind of comparison) tends to draw more attention to the word than to whatever substantive concern about LLMs prompted it."

– from <https://claude.ai/share/37457b87-deba-412d-9e62-3beae2bb33df>.

#Debian #retirement #rhetoric #AI #LLM #LLMs #fascism

@debacle

I also hope the DDs all realize that AI may not be with us forever. The extreme amount of energy and money needed to make and use it certainly doesn't seem sustainable other than for big corporate clients with deep pockets, and I'm not under the impression that #Debian has deep pockets.

Is everyone currently using AI in Debian prepared to go back to hand-writing everything, if and when that becomes necessary?

@joeyh

Sorry, I don’t understand these criticisms about #LLM (call it #AI ) #Linux and #Debian.

It seem irrational and opinionated hate against a piece of tech call it software?!

AI is not about big tech: current trend is going all local with open models and training data. We are not there yet but what about FSF running it’s own AI?
Any tech that helps improving open source is worth considering for our all benefit. Not using a tool known to find bugs is not common sense.

LLM is just software ™️ 🤷

I have been using #Debian since around 2004.

That is 22 years, for those keeping count.

I cannot express how disappointed I am that Debian is going to allow for #AISlop to be used in commits. For 22 years I have been a fairly vocal advocate for people to use Debian.

Over the next couple of months I will be transitioning all of my Debian systems to #Gentoo or other Non-Slopified distros.

#NoAI #AntiAi

To people who maintain servers running on Debian, what are you planning to do now that they accept AI-assisted contributions?

#Debian

il a fallu chercher d'où provenez cette affaire concernant un système linux populaire, en faite ça vient de Basta et probablement d'autre médias

rappel que, leur compte étant sur mastodon .social, des gens masquent cette instance pour divers raisons (robots, plein de crostposts, manque de modération etc), du coup les gens masquant cette instance ne voit pas les boosts concernant des comptes qui y sont, des fois il vaut mieux privilégier de poster sois-même le lien

pour en revenir à l'actualité, de ce que j'comprend c'est en discussion pour inclure ou refuser les programmes poubelles dans le développement de Debian, ce qui va potentiellement impliquer de modifier les guides d'autodéfense numérique (CC le guide boum) pour changer de système en fonction des décisions prises

dernier point il y a un truc qui m'agace dès le début lié à d'autres affaires, Claude c'est un programme il y a pas de "propre chef", c'est juste un moyen pour le patronat d'Anthropic de se dédouaner de sa responsabilité, tout en fessant la propagande d'une illusoire "intelligence artificiel"

https://basta.media/interdire-IA-LLM-des-developpeurs-de-logiciels-libres-rejettent-intelligence-artificielle-Debian

#Debian

That's too bad about #debian. That's all I have to say at the moment.

#ai

@debacle
that wasn't the point joyeh made, as i understood it. (my) main point is that #debian should be putting up fierce collective defense against the dismantling of the relationships between the people that make and use debian. defending and upholding the social contract and its raison d'etre.

some very good, and recent and timely, reflections on what using some tools does to us:
https://deadsimpletech.com/blog/no-such-thing-as-just-a-tool
@jbz @joeyh

I completely support you in this, @jik.

Horrified both at the majority of #Debian voters who refuse to reject fascist ecological-disaster security-nightmare systems with harms undeniable for years; and at how our venerable community has been so riven on this topic.

People are upset about debian but debian would have to reject the kernel to reject LLMs. The fish starts rotting from the head. No distribution will be better than the very kernel it runs. The entire ecosystem is collapsing.

We really do have the 30M lines problem, as Molly Rocket put it. The kernel have always been a single point of failure

We need a standardized SoC (system on chip) with entire system ISA (instruction set architecture). We need operating systems to be a weekend projects. We need thousands of operating systems. We need open source hardware that will enable that.

#debian #linux #kernel #slop #isa #soc #mollyRocket #embedded #permaComputing #retrohardware #programming #operatingsystem #os #device #OpenSourceHardware #OSHW

To all those users now "desperately" looking for a new home, due to the recent Debian GR outcome: As long as you stay with Linux ... you continue with AI....

So, how do you rage quit the kernel? (Possible, but way harder).

#debian #llmgr #llm #ai

(No, I'm not happy with the result. But switching away, as a user, seems rather useless, if not entirely silly.)

Super proud that #Debian affirmed the responsibility of each individual human in producing responsible code that meets objective guidelines. This, along with the Conservancy's recommendations, is the right direction. The next step is making #floss AI accessible and equitable for all social and economic groups. The privilege of those who nay-say #AI from a position of power, degrees, economic status, etc., is peak hypocrisy. They are free to have those biases and opinions, but/and denying those rights to and/or taking aggressive direct action against the underprivileged and underserved is where I draw the line. This technology needs regulation and controls - not fear mongering and access barriers.

Alt...

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I will never understand how the project that respected licenses and trademarks so much that they forked the entire #Mozilla stack to comply ever decided that #AI usage could ever be considered ethical.

I have many machines that are somehow related to @pidgin's development and the vast majority of them run #debian. To keep #AI out of #Pidgin, I now I need to find a new distribution. This is yet another example of me having to pay into the #AI time deficit. 🙄

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian%E2%80%93Mozilla_trademark_dispute

#FuckAI

1. Debian Developer resigns from the project in response to the recent vote to allow generative AI use within Debian.
2. A member of the debian-devel mailing list sends the message at left in response.
3. I just sent the message at right in response to that.
#Debian #Linux #AI

Alt...

good riddance, antoine the fascist. you love causing damage to the debian project and now you're throwing a temper tantrum like a five-year old child because you can't comprehend the ai evolution. you are nothing more than a deranged person who spits at people's work and expects people to follow their unhinged beliefs, a waste of human space. you are the one who is being fascist here.

Alt...

Either the Debian Community Team officially, on the debian-devel mailing list, states that the message below from David Nickelson violates the Code of Conduct and imposes consequences on him for sending it, or I am resigning as maintainer of apt-listchanges and never again taking on any volunteer role within Debian. My contributions to Debian thus far have been extremely small, and I'm sure they will not be terribly missed. Nevertheless, I will not continue to associate myself with an organization which allows messages like the one below to be sent without repercussions.

｢ What LLMs in Debian development will do, I fear, is eliminate any incentive to scrap boilerplate or reform policies that require a lot of other senseless human effort. If I had had access to LLMs 30 years ago, I might have just had them generate the rules files, replate with complexity. So they will make Debian even more firmly what it is, and ever less likely to explore what it could become ｣

https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/Debian_and_the_sirens/

#debian #llm #aislop #vibecoding #opensource

I've loved #Debian for years. Decades, really. The main reason for that is it's always seemed, to me, to be the best place to actually control and own your own computer.

That trust is gone for me. We can talk responsible, not responsible, whatever. The fact is, LLMs are trained on the hard work of billions of people, and put into a blender and sold back to us. It's more separation of workers from the fruit of their labors, to the profit of capitalists.

That's not even getting into the environmental impacts, the bias in it, etc. And especially not getting into the horrible, HORRIBLE people in charge of it all.

I do not want that on my laptop, folks. I just don't.

There was a sense in the Inkscape project that it should be the developer team that decided what the AI policy should be.

I flatty rejected this.

Because most of the consequences for the project, for our users and for the world have absolutely nothing to do with developing software. It's reputation, risk, relationships and community standards and morality.

The last thing I wanted was important decisions to be pre-narrowed to questions of technical usefulness.

#linux #debian #foss #ai

#debian #AI

Alt...

A visibly drunk man pouring himself another glass of wine. The text at the top says: "Average Debian maintainer". The text at the bottom says: "Don't worry, I drink responsibly".

Changes:
openssh (1:10.4p1-5) unstable; urgency=medium
.
* Drop GSS-API authentication and key exchange support, to reduce
pre-authentication attack surface. Users who need these features should
install openssh-client-gssapi or openssh-server-gssapi instead.

I'm probably one of the few people still using GSSAPI (Kerberos). How much you want to bet they kill those "instead" packages in 15 because "nobody is using them"?

#Debian

Effectivement, que #Debian se prononce en mode "nan mais les contributions faites avec de l'IA c'est OK" alors que c'est littéralement le projet qui te forkait la moitié des logiciels FOSS populaires parce que potentiel code propriétaire dedans, on est quand même sur de la triste ironie assez XXL.

S'iels en ont encore réellement quelque chose à faire philosophiquement parlant, ça va être cocasse de les regarder jouer les équilibristes entre les deux.

#Linux

Faz pouco que renstalei #debian no meu desktop. Chateada de ter q ir atrás e aprender outra distro.

Just catching up on the Debian AI debate. The project has had a voting window over the past two weeks which just concluded.

Results are in and Debian maintainers voted to allowing AI contributions with encouraged disclosure.

The winning proposal will hold the human contributor who uses AI accountable for the content they submit to the project.

https://linuxiac.com/debian-says-yes-to-generative-ai-but-keeps-humans-accountable/

#Debian #AI #Linux #OpenSource

There were EIGHT policy proposals put forth. (thats a lot!)

All are VERY interesting to see where people's ideas on how to use AI in open source.

While I'm certain Debian's middle road vote outcome is going to piss off tons of people on either side its good to see people making CLEAR rules.

I for one will NOT be discontinuing my usage of Debian over this vote or even stop updating.

I'll wait and see IF & HOW the maintainers -actually- use AI.

https://www.debian.org/vote/2026/vote_002

#debian #linux #ai

@sunnydeveloper is your assumption that developers will begin behaving irresponsibility following the vote that favours responsible use?

#Debian #AI #LLM #LLMs

@eco_amandine

1. try <https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#operating-systems>

2. I can not recommend ethical-foss/open-slopware

3. you can ask why I can not recommend it

4. et cetera

#AI #Debian

so i have questions about #Debian:

1. are members ONLY developers?

2. only developers argued for/against #LLM #AI?

devs are the last people who should be involved in discussions about the ethics and legality of software. ie:

just reckoned, when a court recently decided you can't claim #copyright on #aislop, it didn't occur to me it means both closed and open copyright.

so, if using #LLMs trained on works stolen or added without consent removes any claims of #FLOSS: what is Debian now?

I wonder how this will affect Raspberry Pi OS

"The winners are: Option 5 "Responsible Use of Generative AI"

#raspberrypi #debian

https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2026/08/msg00360.html

Debian's general-resolution vote on LLMs has landed: 'Responsible Use of Generative AI' wins. Debian neither endorses nor prohibits such tools; contributors must still review and test any AI-assisted output before it ships, and responsibility for what lands in their package stays with the human who submitted it.

https://lwn.net/Articles/1091231/

#debian #freesoftware #ai #llm

@neil Damn, I will have to find a new favourite distro.

#GnuLinux #Linux #Debian #aislop

so i have questions about #Debian:

1. are members ONLY developers?

2. only developers argued for/against #LLM #AI?

devs are the last people who should be involved in discussions about the ethics and legality of software. ie:

just reckoned, when a court recently decided you can't claim #copyright on #aislop, it didn't occur to me it means both closed and open copyright.

so, if using LLMs trained on works stolen or added without consent removes any claims of #FLOSS: what is Debian now? …🧵

I’ve been a long-time Kubuntu user, currently on 26.04 LTS.